Daria Posted November 28 Daria Posted November 28 🟥 Bad Beat or Misplay? 🂡 River killed the pot or you leveled yourself into a hero call? Let’s break hands down together. Post the full line, run the math, and decide if it was a true bad beat or a misplay. 🎯 What to Share Stakes & stacks: blinds, effective stacks in bb. Positions: who opened, who called, who 3-bet. Hole cards and board street by street. Actions with sizes: bets in bb or % pot on each street. Reads: tendencies, recent showdowns, timing tells. 🧮 Quick River Check Pot odds: required equity = call / (pot + call). If villain bets 60% pot, you need about 37.5%. Range compare: list value hands, bluffs, and blocker effects. Ask if worse value calls and if missed draws exist. Combo sanity: count realistic combos, not all theoretical ones. 🧪 Handy Template Game: NL25, 100 bb eff Preflop: CO opens 2.2 bb, BTN calls, Hero BB calls A J suited. Pot 7.1 bb Flop: J 7 3 — Hero checks, CO 3.5 bb, BTN folds, Hero calls. Pot 14.1 bb Turn: 8 — Hero checks, CO 9.5 bb, Hero calls. Pot 33.1 bb River: Q — Hero checks, CO 22 bb (66% pot). Decision? ✅ How We’ll Judge It Line logic: did your earlier streets set up a tough river? Sizing: were bets sized to deny equity and get value from worse? Exploit vs GTO: did you adapt to pool tendencies or fold the solver’s thin spots? Drop your hand with positions and sizings. We will tag it as bad beat or misplay and suggest a cleaner line. Enter Cash Lobby 💬 Post your hand below and tell us your thought process on the river. Then sit down and apply the fixes at NL2–NL10. Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jappy Posted November 28 Jappy Posted November 28 If villain jams that big oop on river Im folding aj Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright13 Posted November 28 Bright13 Posted November 28 Blockers are meh and that sizing screams nutted line or shove vs missed draws Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu Aung Posted November 28 Thu Aung Posted November 28 1 hour ago, Bright13 said: Blockers are meh and that sizing screams nutted line or shove vs missed draws 💯 Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xRaj Posted November 28 0xRaj Posted November 28 If you had AQs or JJ maybe call, but AJ no Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maris_Bosco Posted November 28 Maris_Bosco Posted November 28 Just now, 0xRaj said: If you had AQs or JJ maybe call, but AJ no It save the stack for better spots Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virat Posted November 29 Virat Posted November 29 13 hours ago, 0xRaj said: If you had AQs or JJ maybe call, but AJ no At least that Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted November 29 Magic Posted November 29 14 hours ago, Maris_Bosco said: It save the stack for better spots 💯 Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Lu Posted November 29 Lu Lu Posted November 29 Misplay for me 100%, pool barely bluffs that river Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
СуперМен Posted November 29 СуперМен Posted November 29 57 minutes ago, Lu Lu said: Misplay for me 100%, pool barely bluffs that river Agreed turn sizing is warning asf, that 2/3 on the river def QJ or KQ Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felo_Bui Posted November 29 Felo_Bui Posted November 29 Tbh real mistake is preflop here Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted November 30 Torres Posted November 30 20 hours ago, СуперМен said: Agreed turn sizing is warning asf, that 2/3 on the river def QJ or KQ That a huge sing Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted Sunday at 10:57 AM Stan Posted Sunday at 10:57 AM 19 hours ago, Felo_Bui said: Tbh real mistake is preflop here Preflop is always a mistake unless you have AA or KK Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felo_Bui Posted Sunday at 11:20 AM Felo_Bui Posted Sunday at 11:20 AM 21 minutes ago, Stan said: Preflop is always a mistake unless you have AA or KK I think the same, preflop in general is something that doesn’t payoff a lot, but sometimes you have to do it Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Султан Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM Султан Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM 4 hours ago, Felo_Bui said: I think the same, preflop in general is something that doesn’t payoff a lot, but sometimes you have to do it 💯 Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeeef Posted Sunday at 05:55 PM beeeef Posted Sunday at 05:55 PM AJo OOP multiway is such a headache Just squeeze and print.. you fold out garbage and isolate BTN On 11/29/2025 at 4:46 PM, Felo_Bui said: Tbh real mistake is preflop here Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRiskNoWin Posted Sunday at 06:07 PM NoRiskNoWin Posted Sunday at 06:07 PM 11 minutes ago, beeeef said: AJo OOP multiway is such a headache Just squeeze and print.. you fold out garbage and isolate BTN Exactly, when you flat you invite this gross spots push till 12bb and let it play ☝️ Link to comment https://forum.1wrjo.com/topic/564-%E2%80%8B-%F0%9F%9F%A5-bad-beat-or-misplay-%E2%80%8B/#findComment-6805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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